The Vision We Should Develop When Guru Leaves

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Sri Srimad Gour Govinda Swami

The Vision We Should Develop When Guru Leaves

 Darshana, France 18 July 1986

 

Devotee: What happens when. . . .

Gour Govinda Swami: His instructions are there, vapu rūpa, vāṇī rūpa. Guru means pure devotee, Vaiṣṇava. Guru means very, very intimate associate of Lord Krishna. He is guru, spiritual master. When he is physically present, that is his presence is here, but in aprakata līlā when he disappears, at that time one should not think that guru is not there. He is always there. Krishna is always there. If you have eye you can see Krishna,

premāñjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena
santaḥ sadaiva hṛdayeṣu vilokayanti
yaṁ śyāmasundaram acintya-guṇa-svarūpaṁ
govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi

 

I have already spoken. If you have that bhakti-cakṣu, eye of devotion, and you have developed kṛṣṇa-prema, then you can see Krishna everywhere, yāṅhā yāṅhā netra pade tāṅhā kṛṣṇa sphure.  You look and see Krishna. How could Prahlad Maharaja see Krishna in a stone pillar whereas his father couldn’t?

tasyāhaṁ na praṇaśyāmi
sa ca me na praṇayśati

Bhagavad-gītā. 6.30

 Krishna says. “He always sees Me. I always see him. Spiritual master is always there. Don’t think that he is not physically present, that he is not there. He is there. He is always there. If you have developed love for the spiritual master, if you have developed that eye, you can see him, you can talk to him and he is also present in this form (banging the book), vāṇī–rūpa, his instructions are there. Don’t think so, when he is away.

Krishna Speaks Through Śāstra

Another thing is there: Krishna is always there, Krishna is always speaking, Krishna is always teaching. But how is He there, how is He speaking, and how is He teaching? One may put this question forward.

‘śāstra-guru-ātma’-rūpe āpanāre jānāna
‘kṛṣṇa mora prabhu, trātā’——jīvera haya jñāna

Cc. madhya 20.123

 How does Krishna speak? ‘Śāstra-guru-ātma’, He speaks through śāstra, Veda, Vedic scripture, because the Vedas come from Krishna. He is the source of Veda. What He says in Veda is very difficult to understand. Especially it should be understood through tattva–vicāra, not aparā-vicāra, apparent consideration. It is absolute consideration. Māyāvādīs do apparent consideration, quoting śāstra as Vedic truth.

Paramātmā Assumes the Body of Guru

Then comes the question of guru. Guru comes, the spiritual master comes who is the representative of Krishna, very dear devotee of Krishna, who is as caitya-guru, who is seated in the heart of his body as Supersoul. He is known as caitya-guru. He comes.

nāyam ātmā pravacanena labhyo
na medhayā na bahudhā śrutena
yam evaiṣa vṛṇute tena labhyas
tasyaiṣa ātmā vivṛṇute tanuṁ svām

 (Katha Upaniṣad 1.2.23)

 You cannot know that paramātmā-tattva, īśa-tattva, through your own mundane scholarship, own mundane intelligence, medhayā, or listening to many pravacanas of karmis, jñānīs and yogis. Those who never come under a bona fide disciplic succession are not devotees. You cannot know it. Katha Upaniṣad says, nāyam ātmā pravacanena labhyo na medhayā na bahudhā śrutena. Then how can you know? Yam evaiṣa vṛṇute tena labhyas tasyaiṣa ātmā vivṛṇute tanuṁ svām,  ātmā here means Paramātmā, Supersoul, who is seated in everyone’s heart. Assuming a body He comes as spiritual master, Himself, because He is caitya-guru, to teach paramātmā-tattva. Unless He says you cannot understand. Where does he appear? Who meets him? That’s another question.

Ātmā here means Paramātmā, Supersoul. So Krishna teaches like that. The soul or individual person who is very, very inquisitive to know all these things, who is very eager to know, Paramātmā knows this, “Oh, now he is very eager to know Me so I must help him.” So he comes assuming the body of guru.

brahmāṇda bhramite kona bhāgyavān jīva
guru-kṛṣṇa-prasāde pāya bhakti-latā-bīja

(Cc. Madhya 19.151)

He is most fortunate, bhāgyavān. By wandering through so many planetary systems, undergoing so many species of life, one who is fortunate enough meets a bona fide spiritual master. It is Krishna’s mercy, kṛṣṇa kṛpāte guru mile guru kṛpāte kṛṣṇa mile it is by Krishna’s mercy that you will get the bona fide spiritual master and by the mercy of the spiritual master you will get Krishna. So Paramātmā arranges the meeting.

So this is Krishna’s mercy that you will meet the spiritual master, and by getting the mercy of the spiritual master you will get Krishna. So we must be very eager to know, and we must be very inquisitive like Dhruva Mahārāja was. He was very eager how to get the Lord. So Nārada Muni appeared before him. Paramātmā arranged it, “All right, he is very eager now. You go and show him the path, help him.”

Sādhu Krpa & Śāstra Krpa

Similarly, “Oh my spiritual master has disappeared. How can I be helped? Who will teach me? When you’ll be very, very inquisitive, how can I know? His vāṇī is there, instructions are there, books are there, but I cannot understand the purport. It is very difficult on my part to understand it, though vāṇī is there. Śāstra has its krpa,

sādhu śāstra kṛpāya jadi kṛṣṇonmukha haya
sei jīva nistare māyā tāhāre chāḍaya

(Cc. madhya 20.120)

 Kavirāj Goswami has said this. Sādhu krpa, śāstra krpa, krpa means mercy. The śāstra is also one of the incarnations of the Lord. Kṛṣṇa-tulya bhāgavata—vibhu, sarvāśraya, Caitanya-bhāgavata states this. Bhāgavata-grantha, the scripture is like Krishna. He is vibhu. Krishna is vibhu, Supreme Lord. Bhāgavata is also vibhu. We take shelter of the lotus feet of Krishna. We must take shelter of bhāgavata, and grantha also. Krishna showers His mercy, grantha also showers his mercy. Sādhu showers his mercy. So sādhu-śāstra-kṛpā, sādhu’s krpa, śāstra’s krpa. Then we’ll be attracted towards Krishna, sādhu śāstra kṛpāya jadi kṛṣṇonmukha haya, sei jīva nistare māyā tāhāre chādaya then you are free from the clutches of māyā. So grantha has its krpa, scripture has its krpa. This is one of the forms of the lord. And the instructions of guru is also guru. You’ll get guru krpa through his instructions, vāṇī.

It Is All Optimism

One who is very, very eager, and very, very inquisitive, prays to the spiritual master, and prays to Krishna, “O my spiritual master, you have departed. You are not physically present. I cannot understand it. I am such an ignorant fool. I have no qualification. Though your instructions are there I cannot understand what you have said. Please help me.”

So guru he’ll also come. Not in that form. He should come in the form of a sādhu, a very dear devotee, who is also very dear to your spiritual master. He is very intimate with your spiritual master. He may come in that form. Through him this will be revealed. Doubts will be cleared. You can understand the tattva, purport. And one should think, Yes, yes, my guru is teaching, he is saying in this form, sadhu thereby you will be helped. Don’t think that, “guru is not there. He has departed. What shall I do?” Pray fervently to your spiritual master. He must help you. In this way we have been helped. This is my personal experience. And this is also the opinion of other great mahājanas, ācāryas, they have also said this. This is the eternal process. Krishna is eternal, nitya śāstratā, sanātana puruṣa, His teachings are eternal. The process is also eternal. It is always going on. But we should be very, very inquisitive. Inquisitiveness must be there, that we must get. Everything is there. One should not feel desperate. There is no pessimism in this process. It is all optimism.

 

4 Responses to The Vision We Should Develop When Guru Leaves

  1. Mahesh Pandit das February 9, 2013 at 1:02 am #

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    YOURS,

    Mahesh Pandit das

  2. Mahesh Pandit das February 8, 2013 at 1:47 am #

    IT IS ALL OPTIMISM,
    YES THIS IS INDEED A WONDERFUL EXPLANATION OF GURU TATTVA.
    AS LORD KRISHNA HAS UNLIMITED MANIFESTATIONS, SO IT IS WITH SRI GURU AS WELL.
    (ALTHOUGH THE MYSTIC-YOGI CAN ONLY EXPAND UP TO 9, BUT NO MORE THAN THAT).
    IN THIS REGARD THE PHILOSOPHIC TEACHING OF LORD CAITANYA IS MOST APPROPRIATE IN THIS PARTICULAR CONNECTION. ACINTYA BEDA ABEDA TATTVA………………SIMULTANEOUSLY ONE AND DIFFERENT.
    WE CONDITIONED SOULS ARE ONLY ABLE TO SEE THE 3 DIMENSIONAL FORM OF SRI GURU, BUT WHEN SRI GURU CASTS HIS MERCIFUL GLANCE UPON US WE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE 4 DIMENSIONAL FORM OF THE GURU, HOW HE CAN APPEAR IN DIFFERENT MANIFESTATIONS JUST TO TEACH AND HELP US IN THE PATH OF OUR BHAKTI BHAJAN.
    IN THIS REGARD GURU TATTVA IS ALL ONE.
    SRI GURU MEANS ACCORDING TO THE ACARYA IS ONE WHO IS ENDOWED WITH PREMA BHAKTI.
    IF ONE COMES IN CONTACT WITH SUCH A RARE PERSONALITY OUR LIFE BECOMES MEANINGFUL IN OTHER WORDS WE BECOME VERY FORTUNATE.AND THOSE WHO GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASSOCIATE WITH HIM, BUT DO NOT TAKE THE ADVANTAGE OF IT, THEN THEY ARE ILL FATED.
    SRI GURU’S BUSINESS IS ONLY TO IN-CALCULATE KRISHNA CONSCIOUSNESS TO ONE AND ALL BECAUSE HIS HEART IS BLEEDING SEEING THE SUFFERING OF THE CONDITIONED SOULS IN THIS MATERIAL WORLD.
    HE HAS NO OTHER BUSINESS THAN THAT AND THOSE WHO ARE OBSTRUCTING HIS PREACHING AT THAT TIME THEY MAKE REALLY THE BIGGEST BLUNDER IN THEIR LIFE AND IN THIS WAY THEY MAKE AN EXCUSABLE VAISHNAVA APARADHA.
    AS A DISCIPLE OF MY GURUDEVA I CAN NOT TOLERATE TO SEE HOW MY GURUDEVA ARE EXPERIENCING SO MUCH PAIN BY DEPRIVING HIM FROM PREACHING THE SCIENCE OF KRISHNA CONSCIOUSNESS AT THAT TIME WHEN HE WAS PHYSICAL PRESENT.
    UP TILL NOW I STILL FEEL THE PAIN HOW MY GURUDEVA HAS SUFFERED..

    YOURS,
    IN THE LOVING SERVICE OF SRI GURU & GOURANGA.

    Mahesh Pandit das

  3. jagadish pandit das February 6, 2013 at 6:21 pm #

    WONDERFUL
    “SPIRITUAL MASTER IS ALWAYS THERE” AND MERCY OF GURU IS ALWAYS THERE .
    HOW LUCKY WE ARE TO HAVE SUCH A GREAT OPPERTUNITY ,
    LIKE SRILA GURUDEVA USE TO TELL US” THE GURU TELLS YOU TO HOLD ON TO THE ROPE , BUT HOW MANY ARE HOLDING ON TIGHTLY .”
    BROTHER JAGADISH PANDIT DAS

  4. Virabhadra dasa February 6, 2013 at 4:43 pm #

    this is very clear on a number of direct ways the guru continues to ‘appear’ even after his apparent ‘disappearance’. Thank you for the extract. Very pertinent (even though my guru maharaja is still very much alive and well in prakata activity)
    your appreciative servant

    Vb

Dedicated to the Life and Teachings of Srila Gour Govinda Swami